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Professional CAD/CAM tools built on Inventor and AutoCAD
Integrated BIM tools, including Revit, AutoCAD, and Civil 3D
Professional CAD/CAM tools built on Inventor and AutoCAD
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Transcript
00:13
One of the parts that I didn't expect is this rectangular part here.
00:18
Because I have Auto Zoom on, when I click on something, it will zoom in into the selected entity.
00:26
That's how I know that this is the relay part.
00:29
I could also use the Marking menu and go to the properties of this part.
00:36
This would tell me the same thing.
00:38
So different ways to go to Rome here.
00:41
This is a relay part and how does that part look like?
00:44
Well, I'll open it from the Open Context menu, and you see this is probably a purchase part.
00:50
I don't want to nest it.
00:53
So one of the...
00:56
How can I get rid of this part in the nesting?
00:59
So I will show you two ways, the bad way and the correct way.
01:05
So let's first do the bad way, or the lazy way, I would call it.
01:11
So you can go into Sources and you can identify that relay part.
01:24
And you can say Delete.
01:27
So it is now deleted from my source extraction.
01:31
But that delete is only temporary, and I'll show you why it's temporary.
01:36
So the top note here is out of date and it invites you to Refresh.
01:43
And what the Refresh does, it starts...
01:46
Rereads the assembly because the assembly is master of the situation here.
01:50
So we always, in nesting utility, when dealing with an assembly, we look at the bill of material of that assembly and that is the truth for us.
01:60
So that bill of material hasn't changed.
02:03
So it still says that relay part is there.
02:06
So when I then extract that part again, that part infiltrates again.
02:14
So it is only a temporary way of getting rid of the part, but not a permanent way.
02:21
To permanently get rid of the part, you actually have to go into the part itself and turn off, turn on the Exclude from Nesting flag in the part.
02:32
So once that flag is on, you save the part and make sure that your assembly is aware of it.
02:40
So I have to kick it a little bit here.
02:43
So I'm rebuilding the part quickly and saving the assembly.
02:50
The reason I want to go through the save is because Inventor Nesting utility reacts to that save.
02:58
So now you see once again, the Refresh button comes up, my relay is still there.
03:03
But once I hit Refresh, the relay is gone, and it's now permanently gone from my nest.
03:09
So this is the correct way of dealing with an unwanted part.
03:24
Another part that is causing me some kind of headache is this part here.
03:31
So this is the knife part.
03:33
So if I click on the parent of the shape here, this also brings up the knife part.
03:39
So the extracted shape looks in no way to the original shape.
03:44
So that means that our part extraction wasn't very successful.
03:55
So I'm going to show you another thing, which is what we call Nest Authoring, where you can prepare for those 5% of files that cause problems.
04:08
You can manually go in and prepare the file for nesting in a better way with the Nest Authoring dialogue.
04:16
So what the nest authoring dialogue does, it allows you to pick your provider.
04:21
So it turns out that by default, in this part, we use a generic CAD provider.
04:28
And I can show you with a preview what that result will look like.
04:33
So it's something like this here, right?
04:35
So it is only bringing half of my part.
04:39
So clearly, the generic CAD provider is not giving me the solution I want.
04:45
Well, one thing we could do is pick another provider like the Inventor Part Provider.
04:51
So could we, by using extrusions or sketches, could we get a better description of the shape of this part?
05:02
Well, the part has a weird shape.
05:07
So, that's why I think the better solution is to bring in an extra sketch.
05:17
And I prepared that sketch already here.
05:19
So you see here, this is my sketch that I created from projecting Existing Edges.
05:26
And once I have that sketch, I could either select this as used for nesting,
05:34
or, in a more elegant way, I could do this through the Authoring dialogue and say, I want to use an Inventor Part Provider,
05:43
and I want to use this sketch here, and then that gives me a preview as well.
05:52
So now at least I have a shape that encompasses the entire part.
06:01
So I'm sure that I can machine this to the detail that I want without losing anything.
06:08
So the other thing that we need to be aware of is that you can set the thickness here.
06:16
So I assume this is...
06:20
So you could measure the thickness and introduce it.
06:24
But once you have the thickness, it also gets stored in a Nesting Thickness Parameter here.
06:31
So I just want to point that out for the people that want to do iLogic or something like that, that parameter is reachable for programming.
06:42
So once I have this part defined as authored as an Inventor part,
06:52
I can save this in the same manner I update my assembly, and now we'll see how the nest reacts to that.
07:05
So, so if you look here on...
07:12
And I want to go in three-dimensional mode here.
07:16
So if you look at this part, so it's out of date here.
07:20
So we do the Start Extract Process from here which re-extracts the shape with that new provider.
07:28
So you also see that I have an Inventor Part Provider here now.
07:35
OK.
07:41
So here's my part.
07:42
So it looks much closer to reality here.
07:45
And one other thing I wanted to show you here is, I'm turning off Auto Zoom for a second,
07:52
because I think comparing 2D and 3D is better with Auto Zoom off.
07:57
So this is a 2D display, but we have a couple of other displays.
08:01
One of them is 3D Extrude and this is just showing the extrusion of the sketch.
08:09
Or we have a 3D detail display of the part, or we can compare the extrusion with the 3D detail.
08:16
So, this could be a way of verifying if you bring in the right shape.
08:23
And this tool, this comparison tool is only available for the sources.
08:28
It's not available for the actual nest that we will create later.
Video transcript
00:13
One of the parts that I didn't expect is this rectangular part here.
00:18
Because I have Auto Zoom on, when I click on something, it will zoom in into the selected entity.
00:26
That's how I know that this is the relay part.
00:29
I could also use the Marking menu and go to the properties of this part.
00:36
This would tell me the same thing.
00:38
So different ways to go to Rome here.
00:41
This is a relay part and how does that part look like?
00:44
Well, I'll open it from the Open Context menu, and you see this is probably a purchase part.
00:50
I don't want to nest it.
00:53
So one of the...
00:56
How can I get rid of this part in the nesting?
00:59
So I will show you two ways, the bad way and the correct way.
01:05
So let's first do the bad way, or the lazy way, I would call it.
01:11
So you can go into Sources and you can identify that relay part.
01:24
And you can say Delete.
01:27
So it is now deleted from my source extraction.
01:31
But that delete is only temporary, and I'll show you why it's temporary.
01:36
So the top note here is out of date and it invites you to Refresh.
01:43
And what the Refresh does, it starts...
01:46
Rereads the assembly because the assembly is master of the situation here.
01:50
So we always, in nesting utility, when dealing with an assembly, we look at the bill of material of that assembly and that is the truth for us.
01:60
So that bill of material hasn't changed.
02:03
So it still says that relay part is there.
02:06
So when I then extract that part again, that part infiltrates again.
02:14
So it is only a temporary way of getting rid of the part, but not a permanent way.
02:21
To permanently get rid of the part, you actually have to go into the part itself and turn off, turn on the Exclude from Nesting flag in the part.
02:32
So once that flag is on, you save the part and make sure that your assembly is aware of it.
02:40
So I have to kick it a little bit here.
02:43
So I'm rebuilding the part quickly and saving the assembly.
02:50
The reason I want to go through the save is because Inventor Nesting utility reacts to that save.
02:58
So now you see once again, the Refresh button comes up, my relay is still there.
03:03
But once I hit Refresh, the relay is gone, and it's now permanently gone from my nest.
03:09
So this is the correct way of dealing with an unwanted part.
03:24
Another part that is causing me some kind of headache is this part here.
03:31
So this is the knife part.
03:33
So if I click on the parent of the shape here, this also brings up the knife part.
03:39
So the extracted shape looks in no way to the original shape.
03:44
So that means that our part extraction wasn't very successful.
03:55
So I'm going to show you another thing, which is what we call Nest Authoring, where you can prepare for those 5% of files that cause problems.
04:08
You can manually go in and prepare the file for nesting in a better way with the Nest Authoring dialogue.
04:16
So what the nest authoring dialogue does, it allows you to pick your provider.
04:21
So it turns out that by default, in this part, we use a generic CAD provider.
04:28
And I can show you with a preview what that result will look like.
04:33
So it's something like this here, right?
04:35
So it is only bringing half of my part.
04:39
So clearly, the generic CAD provider is not giving me the solution I want.
04:45
Well, one thing we could do is pick another provider like the Inventor Part Provider.
04:51
So could we, by using extrusions or sketches, could we get a better description of the shape of this part?
05:02
Well, the part has a weird shape.
05:07
So, that's why I think the better solution is to bring in an extra sketch.
05:17
And I prepared that sketch already here.
05:19
So you see here, this is my sketch that I created from projecting Existing Edges.
05:26
And once I have that sketch, I could either select this as used for nesting,
05:34
or, in a more elegant way, I could do this through the Authoring dialogue and say, I want to use an Inventor Part Provider,
05:43
and I want to use this sketch here, and then that gives me a preview as well.
05:52
So now at least I have a shape that encompasses the entire part.
06:01
So I'm sure that I can machine this to the detail that I want without losing anything.
06:08
So the other thing that we need to be aware of is that you can set the thickness here.
06:16
So I assume this is...
06:20
So you could measure the thickness and introduce it.
06:24
But once you have the thickness, it also gets stored in a Nesting Thickness Parameter here.
06:31
So I just want to point that out for the people that want to do iLogic or something like that, that parameter is reachable for programming.
06:42
So once I have this part defined as authored as an Inventor part,
06:52
I can save this in the same manner I update my assembly, and now we'll see how the nest reacts to that.
07:05
So, so if you look here on...
07:12
And I want to go in three-dimensional mode here.
07:16
So if you look at this part, so it's out of date here.
07:20
So we do the Start Extract Process from here which re-extracts the shape with that new provider.
07:28
So you also see that I have an Inventor Part Provider here now.
07:35
OK.
07:41
So here's my part.
07:42
So it looks much closer to reality here.
07:45
And one other thing I wanted to show you here is, I'm turning off Auto Zoom for a second,
07:52
because I think comparing 2D and 3D is better with Auto Zoom off.
07:57
So this is a 2D display, but we have a couple of other displays.
08:01
One of them is 3D Extrude and this is just showing the extrusion of the sketch.
08:09
Or we have a 3D detail display of the part, or we can compare the extrusion with the 3D detail.
08:16
So, this could be a way of verifying if you bring in the right shape.
08:23
And this tool, this comparison tool is only available for the sources.
08:28
It's not available for the actual nest that we will create later.
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