Description
Key Learnings
- Discover the benefits of using the AutoCAD Electrical toolset
- Discover the basic concepts of starting an AutoCAD Electrical project
- Discover the basic support files that can be made company-specific
- Discover the key items for converting AutoCAD templates to AutoCAD Electrical templates
Speaker
- Tiffany BachmeierTiffany Bachmeier leads an amazing global team of brilliant consultants focused on automotive, manufacturing, advanced manufacturing, and media & entertainment solutions. She has a strong passion for the convergence of methodologies across all industry segments and is excited to see the transformation that it is enabling. Before management, her primary focus was as a technical consultant for AutoCAD Electrical, but she also focused on AutoCAD, Inventor, and a variety of other products in the Autodesk family. She is an Autodesk Certified Instructor and she (and team) has won awards for developing a full line of online, live, instructor-led training classes for the Autodesk manufacturing products. Before becoming a consultant she earned her bachelor’s degree from Michigan State University (MSU) and she worked in many different industries gaining valuable knowledge and experience, including electrical engineering, interior design/architecture, mechanical engineering, and software engineering, and she was part of MSU’s CAD Development Team. She started on AutoCAD R10 and has carried a strong passion for Autodesk products ever since.
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Welcome to AU 2018, your very first class. Unless you've snuck into an 8:00 AM class and then snuck back out to come in here, but I'm assuming this is your first class. So welcome.
My name is Tiffany Bachmeier. I will be your speaker today. I am a consulting practice manager at Autodesk. So I lead a team of consultants that focus on enterprise software management and emerging technologies, which is just a really long title to say that I have a very mixed skill set on my team of a wide variety of awesome consultants that have awesome skills.
So but I am also the resident AutoCAD Electrical expert at Autodesk. So I am thrilled to bring you this class. We were just talking about, it's kind of a small track for electrical, so oftentimes, I see the same faces again in my other classes. So I don't know if you're signed up for that, but I've got another one tomorrow and another one on Thursday, so hopefully I'll see you guys all there.
But for those of you that are in here for the first time, I do want to just get a feel for where everybody is. How many of you actually have AutoCAD Electrical installed? It's part of your toolset. Wow. Quite a bit of you. OK, that's good. And how many of you have actually tried it? You're maybe using it, but it's still being used as regular AutoCAD? Maybe you've passed a couple of buttons? All right. There's a few.
Have you installed it but not really sure you've configured it correctly? Are you seeing some manufacturers but maybe not all that you were expecting, or symbol libraries, any thoughts on that? Randy, I saw that hand raise and I know that is not true. Another resident AutoCAD Electrical expert in the back there, and he's going to apparently haggle me with the hand raises.
All right. Very cool. So for the rest of you, who is in here that hasn't installed it, but are just really curious about AutoCAD Electrical, hoping to maybe implement it? OK. Awesome. Great. So we've got a good mix. So this is a beginner's class. My goal with this class is to help you all see the benefits in how you could quickly implement Electrical, if you wanted to.
It's to give you some tips and tricks on that, and to take you through some of the core features. Obviously in 90 minutes, you're not going to be experts yet. But I'm going to get you as close to that as possible, so when you get back home and you're back in your offices, you guys can start actually installing and setting things up to be the most productive that you can.
Now, the idea of the Toolsets themselves-- when they first came out, the idea was that you can toggle between any of the AutoCAD toolsets. So what we called AutoCAD Verticals are now Toolsets within AutoCAD. That doesn't mean, though, you're toggling within your actual AutoCAD. There's not a pulldown and you're switching between them that way.
You still have to install them as their individual counterparts, but it does mean that your subscription allows you access to all of them. So you're getting Architecture, and Electrical, and Mechanical, and so on. So one of the things I'm going to show you here are some screenshots of the installation for Electrical, and I just want to make sure everybody knows some of the things that you have to do to configure it.
Because if you just install it out-of-the-box without actually opening in a configuration, you don't get all of the libraries, and all of the manufacturers and catalog information that we're expecting to see. So those are some of the things I want to talk about in here.
If I get through all of this in 90 minutes and we still have some time, I'm going to take you through whatever else I can to get you up-to-speed as possible. And I'm also happy to take as many questions. I know we've already been talking up here and asking questions. Sure.
AUDIENCE: Are these slides going to be available?
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yes. So I haven't actually uploaded this to the website yet, but I will right after this class. There's also a handout that has tons of information on getting started, and even some exercises that you can do with it, as well as I'll show you this-- a little sneak peek of it-- but there is an upload for a PDF version of this. This is a quick reference guide for AutoCAD Electrical paths.
Now, this is the standard pathing. I'm going to talk to you here about network pathing, for being able to work together with multiple people, which I'm sure most of you will do. But this gives you an idea of all the different support files and things that Electrical provides you that you can customize and you can work with to make it unique for your company.
So there are a few of these though, laminated, so I'll be passing them out as we do some things towards the end, but just know that you all have access to it in PDF form on the website.
OK, so let's talk about the benefits of Electrical in general compared to vanilla AutoCAD. Let me ask that question, too. How many people are doing electrical controls designed today, or are trying to use electrical, but in the past have used just vanilla AutoCAD for it? And how many of you are using something else? Maybe it's EPLAN, maybe it's Promise-E. OK, so much less.
All right. So my focus topic is really around AutoCAD to AutoCAD Electrical, but we can also talk about other software packages and questions you might have on comparisons and things like that. So these are obviously the things that take a little bit longer with vanilla AutoCAD. It's a lot of manual. You can see the word "manual" being repeated on this slide over and over again.
Manual creation of symbols, manual tagging, manual cross-referencing, manual checking, and editing, and reporting tools. And that's the hard part, right? So when we get to the actual productivity benefits of AutoCAD Electrical, that's where we start seeing all of the automatic things. We have over 2,000 symbols that come with AutoCAD Electrical. We have automatic tagging. We have real time cross-referencing, automatic reports-- and we'll look at some of those reporting tools, and I'll show you those.
And I have this in caps because it's so simple, but it's one of my absolute favorite things about Electrical is this title block utility. When I first started, back when AutoCAD Electrical was first a product within Autodesk, so back in 2004-- before that, it was a purchase. If anybody's ever heard of WD Via, that was what it was before.
But when we brought it into our family of products, I actually used it simply for title block updating. I downloaded a 30-day trial. I was back in the industry. I worked in conveyor design before I became a consultant. And I had over 500 drawings I needed to update, but they were pretty much all the same project. I'm sure some of you can probably relate to that.
And I just needed to update all the title blocks with different information, because they were different customer needs, and we needed to put that in. My boss placed it in front of me and said, all right. This is probably going to take you a week or two. And I look at it, and I'm like, I am not manually typing out all of these. It wasn't hard, but it was going to be mind-numbing.
And so I started looking into it. And I didn't want to have to write a script of my own. I wasn't comfortable with that back then. And sure enough, I found out AutoCAD Electrical. I downloaded the 30-day trial, threw all of my drawings into a project file, which I'll be talking about here in a second, and I was able to update the title blocks in less than an hour.
Dropped them back off to my boss, and he said, how on Earth did you do this this fast? I said, AutoCAD Electrical, and you're buying it for me. And he's like, yes, I am. So that's just a little history for me. So that's why I have it in caps, because it's just such a simple thing, but even something that simple just shows you the benefits of what Electrical can do for you.
And the last thing, just to kind of give you a little more teaser for why this can be so beneficial for you before we actually head into all the different tools it has, this is a productivity study done back in 2015 just comparing time-- how long it takes to do something in vanilla AutoCAD versus Electrical and the amount of savings.
And you can see some massive reductions. Creation of new designs, 84% speed increase. Editing, 77% faster. And then the risk of errors, massive reduction of errors just because of all the automation and not having to manually see, OK, I just updated this symbol on this page. What page is the other one on? Let's see, I've got a parent here, a child here. Where am I going to go find them? Electrical is doing all that for you. So that's really the benefit.
Hopefully most of you know that and that's why you're here. You're curious about it. But I just wanted to give you that to think about.
So how do we start? How do you get off on the right foot with Electrical? And yes, I know these screenshots are from Product Design Suite Ultimate. It's because that's typically what I'm installing, because I'm installing multiple products at one time. But ignore that part. The key here is the AutoCAD Electrical 2019 that you're seeing.
But if you actually are used to seeing this screen, maybe you've seen it collapsed when you've gone to install software before-- and by the way, if this isn't what you do, you have an IT person that does this for your company, you need to express this to them. You need to tell them that these things need to be configured into the deployment so that you can make sure that everybody's getting the same setup to Electrical, because this is an important part of it.
Again, like I said, if you just install it out-of-the-box-- this is still out-of-the-box, but if you install it without even opening up this configuration list, you will only get a few manufacturers. You will only get the NFPA library. You're not going to get all of the tools that come with Electrical because we just don't install those by default. You have to actually choose them.
So what happens, if you're not familiar with this screen when you're going to install software, is where it says Autodesk AutoCAD Electrical 2019, you actually click on that, and that expands to show you this configuration list. I don't have screenshots of every single thing in the install path, but the key things is what I wanted to show you.
So you can see here there's quite a few manufacturers. Obviously, I didn't scroll through this whole list. You're only seeing A through E, and just the start of E, really. I know this says not recommended. Keep in mind that's just because if you're installing on your C drive, it can take up a decent amount of space. It's a pretty big file of all the different manufacturers.
So it doesn't mean it's not recommended at all. Feel free to install all the manufacturers, especially if you're going to put it in a network drive area. But that is one thing I always want to tell people. That's how you get all of the manufacturer data. You need to actually choose those. And you can just go through the list and choose specifically what your company uses.
Now , the next page here, or scrolling really, if we were going through it, is how you define what drawing standards you use. So in AutoCAD Electrical, we actually get libraries for the US standard in both imperial and metric form, so we have NFPA and IEEE. There's also the international standard with IEC, along with the fact that we have Chinese, Japanese, and Australian standards that all come with the software, as well.
So lots of different libraries, and you choose what your standard library is going to be here. NFPA is obviously the US standard in imperial form. JIC is old legacy standard. It's still there if people are still using that from older versions of the software. But if you're doing this for the first time, encourage you to use NFPA. It's the more updated library.
And then the key here is this little section right here that says, Please define a location for your data. By default, it's going to your C drive. But if you want to share these libraries with other people within your company, which is typically the case-- typically, it's more than one person using the same libraries and catalog information-- that's where we need to start defining where you want to put those.
So if you do this from the onset, you do it from here in the install, and you create a deployment for that, then everybody can get that same install and everybody will be pointing to the same paths. If you do it after the fact, there's a little bit more work that has to be done around something called the environment file and all the different pathing that we have to point to.
And there's a little more chances for things to break, and you have to go back and fix them, and figure out where to link all of those different files to. So it's just a little bit more effort if you do it after the fact than if you do it right out of the install. So that's my advice to you. So you can put that on a network share. If you guys are using Vault-- that's our data management package-- you can also set this up to be all included inside of Vault. So that's the other really big benefit.
Then you bring it local to sit on your local workspace for Vault on your own computer, so you're not working over a network drive with all of those files. But you're always having that backup of the main file living inside of inside of Vault, so everybody's sharing that. So another benefit if you are using our data management package.
If you are interested in more of that information, I am teaching an implementing class on Thursday. I'm not going to dive too far into that here, but I just wanted to introduce it to you all. Yeah, yeah?
AUDIENCE: Is it possible to do more than one standard?
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yes. So this is our standard. This is you define your main standard, but in the next screenshot, yep, absolutely you can say, I want to install all of these other libraries, too. I always install-- oop. Forgot I had a microphone there. I always install all of them. And you can switch, then, per project.
You can say, you know what? My standard is NFPA, but on this particular project I am working with a customer in Germany, and they want IEC, and so you're going to use IEC at that point. And so by installing all of them, you have the ability to add per-projects different libraries that you want to be able to utilize, so absolutely. Yeah?
AUDIENCE: Is it possible to install these libraries after the program has already been installed?
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: You can, yep. So you can go back in. And if you do a repair-- or not a repair, why am I blinking? Not a reinstall.
AUDIENCE: Modify.
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: The modify. The Add and Remove Features, that's what I was trying to think of. Thank you very much. You can do repairs, obviously, if you have errors. But the Add and Remove or the Add and Modify is going to help you with those features. And when you go into that, you can go step back through all of these and you can choose to add manufacturers. Yep, you can.
Again, though, if you're not that far down the road of installing, I would almost recommend you go back and just create a deployment for it, and just uninstall your current version and reinstall so that you have everybody on the same page, and you're not having to do that on every user's computer with that Add and Modify. So but yes, it can be done.
And then you can see here, after I choose the additional libraries, I have another area where I can define where I want the symbol library. So those two locations where the path is, one is for the catalog database and one is for the symbol libraries. And that brings along all the support files with them that would follow along, that would normally go out into C drive locations for support files. Instead, they'll all sit on a network drive for you. Make sense? So far, so good?
OK. That's installation. Once you get there and you're actually ready to head into AutoCAD Electrical, I gave you a little glimpse of this already. The key to AutoCAD Electrical functioning like you want it to, with all of the intelligence, is the project file. It's the number one thing. There is a whole lot of other stuff we can talk about that makes things intelligent inside of it, but none of it works unless you have all of your drawings being consumed by a main project file.
So that's the key functionality. Now, project files are really just notepad files. If you were to go into them and take a look at them, they don't really mean a whole lot to you. This is what it looks like up in the upper-right there. But what that is is it's filling out all of the project properties and the information associated, including the drawings, and it's registering all of that inside this little wdp file extension. And that's what's driving everything.
I'll show it to you inside of Electrical here in a second, but that's really what it's all about. It's keeping all those drawings connected. It allows you to speak back and forth between drawings. And on that note, if you need a drawing to talk to another drawing, that's how you decide what the project file is. So your projects could be two drawings. They could be 200 drawings.
Totally depends on what it is you're trying to do, but the key is-- because I get asked a lot, well, how do I define what the project is? If a drawing needs to talk to another drawing, it should be included inside that same project file. So cross-referencing information, schematic-to-panel drawings, all of that.
All right. And then some of those line labels that you saw on that little text file I just showed you are actually the delineations of what selections you choose in this dialog box, the Project Properties. So this dialog box is really powerful. It defines what symbol libraries you're using for Electrical. It defines standards, like how do I want my tagging to be for components, for wires? How do I want cross-referencing to look?
How do I want my wires to cross? Do I want them to loop? Do I want them to cut through? Do I want them to break so that they show there's a little break line there? You're not going to have to do any of that manually. That's all automatic with Electrical, as long as you define all of those properties. So that's the really important part about this dialog box.
Again, I'll show it to you when we get into the software, but that's where you're seeing things, even arrow styles. How do I want my arrows to look? Things like that. So that's how you can set standards for everybody in your company to be doing the same thing and the same drawing so that everything looks the same when it comes out.
And then this is the Project Manager on its own, where you can see the list of the actual project file at the top. That's what's bold here. This is my active project. And then we can even do folders within it. This is not a Windows folder. It's just a folder structure inside of Electrical to allow us to control groups of drawings.
So let's say you do have 200 drawings in a project, and you know that you need them to all be able to speak to one another, but really, you want certain ones to be able to operate together as a group. You can put them into separate folders like that, and you can actually run project-wide commands on just a folder group. It doesn't have to be the whole project, even though we use the word project-wide.
Project-wide just really means more than one drawing. Does that all make sense? Kind of? Is it just far too early, you guys? You look engaged, but you all look a little tired. You're like, [YAWNS]. Yes?
AUDIENCE: Can you add drawings from the Vault into the project here?
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yeah. So there's a couple of different ways to do it. You can start a project from the beginning, if you have Vault, and then that project will check into Vault along with all the drawings as you do it. Or if you for some reason created that drawing separately from the project, you can add a drawing to the project and have it be consumed by that from Vault.
Typically what people are doing though is, and you can't obviously see it here, but when I get into Electrical, there's a separate ribbon that says Vault. And you'd be checking in-- you'd already be signing into Vault through that. And as you create a project and you put drawings into it, that whole thing will get consumed up to Vault.
There's some really cool stuff with that. I'm probably not going to spend a lot of time in this class on it, but just know the functionality between Vault and AutoCAD Electrical is insanely powerful. You don't have to have the whole project checked out to one person. Multiple people can work in that project at the same time. If it's referencing one drawing and you're on that, and it goes out to reference another drawing, it will auto checkout that other drawing, make that change, and then check it back in to still allow flexibility. There's some really cool stuff that it does.
We're going to spend a little bit more time on that if you guys come to the electromechanical class I'm teaching tomorrow around Electrical Vaults and Inventor. If we have more time at the end, our plan is actually just to talk a little bit more about Vault in general with Electrical. We get a lot of questions around that, so yeah, but that's a great question.
So that's the project manager. Now, when you create a brand new project, you defined things like where the location of that project's going to live. Again, if you're using Vault, it would be automatically accessing that Vault workspace because you'd be predefined to that. But most of the time, this probably wouldn't be a C drive file. You'd see it out on a network drive for somebody to share.
And then you can even copy settings from another project file. That doesn't mean copy all the drawings. That's actually a different command, but we can do that, as well. This is more like just copying all those project properties over so that you're mimicking that same info that you already did on the last one.
The drawing lists-- we've already kind of talked about this a bit, but there's quite a few right-click options on both an individual drawing, and then when you go up to the project level of being able to define things like that folder structure, you can drag and drop things in and out of folders. And I'll show you some of those different things.
There's also a really awesome command for publishing. How many people know the publish command in vanilla AutoCAD? Obviously how you can print more than one drawing at a time, or publish to a PDF. Our publishing side of Electrical accesses that same publish, but predefines it to grab everything inside your project file. Much easier, exactly. You don't have to do it yourself and find all of them and add it to the list.
And then on top of that, you can actually plot it to a PDF form with hyperlinks so that that same time cross-referencing that we see inside of Electrical, somebody that doesn't have Electrical can still see and navigate through all of your drawings by clicking on, say, a parent and then automatically being sunk to that child in the same PDF. So there's some really cool things with that, too, so some neat functionality there.
I'm going to show you this when I go live in the software in a second, but the Surfer-- again, whenever I'm demoing Electrical, it's the first thing I show people for understanding the relationship of drawings to one another within a project. So what you're seeing on this screenshot is that there are four different symbols within this project that are all connected to one another, and they're across multiple sheets.
You can see on there sheet 4, sheet 6, and sheet 9. And it's all the same symbol being referenced with either parent-child relationships or a footprint symbol, so the actual physical representation of that symbol. By the way, when we say panel, it doesn't actually have to be an enclosure panel. I said I was used to being conveyor design. It could be the mechanical display of your conveyor and where your electrical devices are on that.
It's just the physical representation of your schematics that you're designing here. So that's what panel drawings are. And that's what I'm seeing with that little footprint symbol. That pound symbol is telling me that that's a footprint symbol for me out in my panel drawing. So this is really the power behind that project file. All right.
And then the last thing is the Copy Project. So I said before, we could copy the project properties. This is copying the whole project. So when I typically encourage people when they're going through their implementation of Electrical, and you start figuring out how you want to define everything, you start defining your tagging formats, and your wiring information, and all of that.
I encourage people to build a template project, not just template drawings like we're used to-- bless you-- like a dwt file, but actually a full template project. And maybe you have five of them as a company. Maybe you have five standard projects that you do. And depending on how you guys work, it might be customers you have, or internal customers to your company, whenever you get asked to build a project up.
But when you do that, the idea is you get those all set up as template projects, and then you copy those template projects in for whatever your next project is that you're being commissioned to do. And you just make the adjustments that you need to to that. So you're not reinventing the wheel every time, you're just making those minor adjustments.
We have lots of tools to do that. Lots of automatic. There's swapping tools to swap blocks out globally throughout the project. Maybe your standard template project has limit switches and you need proximity switches in place of that. You can do that. You don't have to manually go out there and delete them and insert the next one. You don't have to do that.
Maybe you just need to find a manufacturer you used in that one and swap it with a different manufacturer, but the drawings stay the same. We have project-wide tools to do that. So the goal is you can copy the projects this way, and it's more powerful than a Windows copy because it actually looks at all support files, which I'm going to talk about later, and makes sure it brings all those support files with you.
So things like the custom files that you can do for your corporate standards, the title black files that link everything to it, even tomorrow's class when I show you EMX, if you're coming, the electromechanical workflow file comes with that, too. So there's lots of things that this Copy Project handles that's more powerful than just, say, a Windows copy.
Are we good so far? How are we doing? Yeah? Everybody's nodding. OK.
So I don't PowerPoint you to death, let's go out to Electrical for a second here and let's just take a look. So you can see in my screen here, and that is the beauty of a mouse on a podium, just [INAUDIBLE] it all the way down. So you can see inside of this drawing, or inside of the whole setup to AutoCAD Electrical here that I have my project manager over here on the left-hand side, and I can see my drawing set here. I'm going to switch drawings.
So here's the project file that I was telling you about. If I right-click on this project file-- is it the podium? There we go-- and I go to my Properties, this is what I was telling you about. This is the power behind being able to set standards. So I can define my Symbol Library for this. You can see it's going to my NFPA. I know that's kind of an eye chart, but you can see that.
Component tagging-- so you define things like I want all my component tags to be a family code-- that would be something like CR for control relay, and then a line reference number. Or if you do them sequentially, you just want CR1, 2, 3, 4, you can define that, too. You can define all sorts of different standards in here. Wire numbering, like I mentioned, cross-referencing for how that looks between parent-child relationships.
The styles I was telling you about-like arrows, and how wires loop and cross. And even standard format. What's my standard ladder width? What's my standard spacing? You can define all of that. So again, everybody that's working at your company is doing the same thing within the project. So that's a good thing. So that's project properties.
And then just to show you again the power of the project file, this is the connection. If I take this control relay and I right-click and I go to the Surfer, and you see that same dialog box I just showed in that screenshot. I can double-click on this and have it jump to-- this was on the same page, the child component on the same page. Here's a child component on a different drawing.
And this is where, if I were doing this in Vault, it would automatically check out that drawing, check it back in as I leave it. And if I move this, you can see that there, and then I can even go out to the panel and it zooms me right up on that device. It's the CR409 on the panel. So that's really the power of the project file.
And that's why we consume all the drawings into this one area. And you can see I actually have two folders here, one for schematics, one for panel. And I have my drawings separated as such in this list Make sense? Good so far? All right. Oh, yes. Question.
AUDIENCE: So how does that affect [INAUDIBLE] How does that affect [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Great question. So AutoCAD electrical will keep track of things like that. So there's something in the background of AutoCAD Electrical called a scratch database. You don't ever have to think about it, but it's keeping track of all changes, all things happening, all devices in the drawing at the same time. You have one on your computer. Whoever has it open in another computer has that, as well. All things are being tracked.
So let's say you have drawing1 open and I have-- I keep forgetting that's there-- drawing4 open, as you can see on the screen. If you do something to drawing1 that needs to update on drawing4, it's actually going to tell you that somebody else has that open right now. So there's this area right here, this preview pane. This shows me either a preview of my drawing-- just to show you, so if I highlight any one of these drawings, it shows me an image.
Or if I switch over to Details, it actually shows me things like the file name, the status of it. If I go up to the one that I'm on, it says it's locked by me and my computer name. So if you run a command, it will tell you that a drawing was not actually available. It will tell you actually who it's locked by, and you can either, A, call me up and say, hey, I need to access that drawing. Can you get out of it for a second?
Or as soon as it becomes unlocked, you can run an update again and it will track all that stuff. You're not going to lose changes or have any issues with that. But it's designed actually to allow multiple people to work in the same drawing set. Especially because you deal with things, like I said, if you have 200 drawings in a project, you probably have more than one engineer working on it or one drafter working on it.
So it's designed to do that. It's designed to keep that task list running of understanding all of the changes and edits to it, but it actually communicates with you on that. It will tell you. Same thing if I were to do a project-wide command and try to hit all drawings in the project, and you have one of them open, it will do all of them and tell me one was locked and it couldn't do it. And then again, I could call you up, or I could wait for you to close out of it, and I could rerun those commands. It keeps track of all that stuff.
AUDIENCE: Is there a way to-- keeping it updated automatically without having to wait for them to get out of it?
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: No, because at that point, what if they made changes to that same drawing? And now you're not getting their changes. So yeah, there's not where it blends them, no. No, no, no. Yeah?
AUDIENCE: So [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: It can. It doesn't have to.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] go off of a [INAUDIBLE] an Excel spreadsheet. And read the Excel spreadsheet [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Ah, yes. So here's some things about that. So I don't know if you all heard her question. She was asking, if I have my tagging format to read wrong references, what if I wanted to predefine all those tags in an Excel spreadsheet and have it just automatically tag things? We have something called Import/Export Data here. That's what this tab of the ribbon is for. There's a lot of power on this tab, a lot of really cool things that can be done.
And one of those is actually being able to send to a spreadsheet and from a spreadsheet. So if you wanted to send your whole project to a spreadsheet and edit it via the spreadsheet, and then bring it back in to update, you can absolutely do that. That will overwrite any of your other settings. The key is to be careful that you don't run something like the project-wide Update and Retag and then have it go back to all of your settings of what you have inside the Project Properties.
So if you're going to do something different than those settings in the Excel spreadsheet, just be careful with some of these commands. My advice would be, anything that you put inside the spreadsheet, make sure it mimics what your settings are here. And then that way if anybody runs it, it's still going to function properly.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] So some of it just uses the same [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Which is fine.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] was autotag and [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Fair enough. Yeah. Would they possibly be off of, I don't know, an IO number or things like that?
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: So if that's the case--
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: So if that's the case, just know that you can actually say, search for PLCIO address. So if you have that setting already in there, it will still do it even if you run that project-wide update, just in case. So you're good. Yep. It'll keep you safe there. Yep. Good questions. Really good questions.
So heading back to the PowerPoint home-- how am I on time? OK. So I'm going to jump back into Electrical pretty quickly here. So the other power obviously that everybody typically looks for in Electrical is the speed of creation of your drawings. So the project file is helping you make sure that cross-referencing is happening, that you have error checking that's going on, that there's things that you don't have to do manually anymore.
But then when you actually get to inserting symbols and wires, that's the power of all of the library files that we have. So you're seeing a list here of those same libraries that you saw in my installation screenshot so that you can take a look at that, and that can actually go through and choose which ones you want. I obviously chose all of them, so you're seeing all of them there.
It's a bit of an eye chart, but we'll just see how well you're able to pay attention to all of this. And totally fine if you didn't catch it, but do you see additional libraries in there that weren't in that list that I checkmarked in my installation screenshots? Yeah?
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yeah. You guys are paying attention. So yes, there are pneumatic, hydraulic, and P&ID symbol libraries that automatically come with the software, too. You don't choose to install them. They automatically come in with the install. And they're called peer devices to AutoCAD Electrical, and you can actually use them, create those same drawings that you would be doing, maybe in a different package, but include them as a part of your electrical project and they can reference their schematic symbols at the same time.
So again, like I said, they're peer-to-peer devices. So they can carry the same tagging information and they can do that. Yes, Randy?
AUDIENCE: That was my question [INAUDIBLE].
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Excellent. Go to Randy's class this afternoon. Perfect. So yeah, really powerful stuff there, too. I always like to point that out because I get a lot of people that'll call me and say, I'm using AutoCAD P&ID. How do I connect that to my AutoCAD Electrical? And I say, use the P&ID instead of Electrical. So there are those other packages that can do some of that functionality.
But if you have those basic drawing sets and you want them to talk to your Electrical projects, I highly encourage you to just do them all inside of the same package. Cool? All right. And then on the right-hand side, again, if I chose my library as NFPA, which I did, you're seeing what is called my icon menu. And this is how I grab symbols.
Is it customizable? You betcha. Do you see my little face right there? So that's my funny little add-on. You can obviously add any PNG image you want. It certainly doesn't have to be my face. But that is how you can create custom symbols for your company. So you can absolutely build up a library full of custom symbols.
Now, my advice to you is don't reinvent the wheel. We have push buttons, and relays, and switches. Don't build new ones. Yes, it maybe doesn't look like the engineer in your office who's been doing it since '98, and they drew their own push button, but guess what?
AUDIENCE: 1898.
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Or 1898. It is, however, standard based off of the IEEE standards and the NFPA '79 standards that are set by the US. So guess what? Then everybody has the same push buttons. So that's my advice. If you have to, because that guy's going to throw a huge fit about it, you can do it. My point is more build the custom symbols for the really unique symbols that you have as a company. Don't worry about it for all of the little things.
So that's my advice. Doesn't always work. Sometimes people have to do it anyway, but that's my advice about custom symbols. We have a really great utility called the Symbol Builder that makes it super easy to do this. So really what AutoCAD Electrical blocks are that make them intelligent, they're just AutoCAD blocks with very specific attributes.
So if you're really good in AutoCAD and you know blocks and attributes, that's all it is. Electrical is fully AutoCAD, it just makes it all a little faster and easier. It combines a lot of the manual things that we have to do in vanilla AutoCAD and makes them very fast, quick commands inside of Electrical. So same thing goes with block functionality.
The intelligence comes out of the very specific attributes that we have, including even attributes for how wires attach, and that's how it knows how to automatically break wires and have them trim out where they're supposed to and things like that. So nothing crazy fancy in the background, it's just all about those intelligent attributes.
And with that said, I'm going to take you right back into the software to show you some of that. So just to give you an example of parent-child relationships and assigning wires, let's say I come down here and I want to add another rung to this ladder. Super, super easy. There's actually an Add Rung command. Makes it really fast and easy.
Wires, as well, are layers. They're just AutoCAD layers. But they're intelligently told to AutoCAD Electrical in a dialog box called Create and Edit Wires that tells you all of the wires that are within your drawing. So if I come down here to Wire Type, I can switch between any of them that I put in here. Now, a typical customer probably has more like 40 different wire types in here-- all the different colors and gauge sizes. I only have three for demonstration purposes.
But let's say I want that red 18 gauge wire to be my rung. All I have to do-- watch how casually I click. I'm not being specific at all about where I clicked. But it knows, based off of settings that I have, that I have rung spaces there. It's going to jump to the nearest rung that it can. It's going to automatically make those connection dots because that's in my project properties. So it knows all of that stuff.
So that's how easy it was to add a wire. Now if I want to go add a symbol, let's say I'm going to do the parent-child relationship that we just saw, the relays and contacts. So if I go in here and I choose a relay coil, and I come down and I zoom up here and place it on my drawing, you can see it's automatically starting to tag it. It says CR417 because that's the particular line number I'm on, and that's the setting. I have for my tagging information.
We can go in here and we can start describing what information I want to put on this particular control relay. Now, I can do that manually. I can type it in here. Or I can actually look at the drawing or the project to see what else I've already typed to match that. So for instance, if this is going to be another safety relay, I can just mimic that and just change the number.
Makes it really easy. Now I'm not re-typing it, fat-fingering something, anything like that. The other thing that I'm going to get to in a little bit here is customized files. And there are custom files where if I go into this default, where I can actually change this to be my corporate standards for how I want to do standard descriptions for all my different symbols. This one comes with the software, but this is a description file.
It's called the wd_desc, the descrip wdd file. I know it's a whole lot of Ws and Ds, but this file allows you to predefine things like for push buttons, for relays, for literally any of the symbols that we have, and then you have standards in there so everybody uses the same ones. Cool? Kind of cool. The other really cool thing, there's language conversion in here. So there's examples of dual English and French, and dual German and English in here.
But you can also go to any language, choose a standard phrase, and then find the translated version that you want with other library lists in here. There is also a full language conversion to AutoCAD Electrical, where you can fully convert your whole project. That is a different area, but also same idea, same things.
Are we excited? I'm not seeing a lot of oohs and ahs. I really like seeing oohs and ahs. Yes?
AUDIENCE: Is there a cable tractor or when holding another cable--
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: You betcha. You betcha. Yep. There is. So in fact, if I switch drawings here, in just a second I'll show you that. So that's description area information. The catalog data right here, and that actually kind of feeds into our discussion, so I'll show you that in a second, but catalog data's probably the most important thing everybody cares about, because now you don't have to build a separate bill of material. It can be produced off of these drawings.
So as much information as you fill out in this dialog box, the more you can get out of a report that you're trying to pull later. That's the key here. And again, you could do the same thing, where you look at just what part numbers have I already used in this drawing to make it really easy. But what most people care about seeing is the catalog data.
And that goes back to that whole manufacturer list that I showed you earlier, where you choose what manufacturers you want to install. Whatever you choose there is what's going to show up here. That's the key. So this Catalog Database is a Microsoft Access database file. Again, it's something that you can share, and I highly recommend you do it if there's more than one of you doing this.
You don't want to have to be building your own part number and then have somebody else have to do the exact same thing on their computer. You want to share that information. But the other way that you can do this, what we allowed-- not allowed. What we designed to have happen in, I think it was, 2017 version was a SQL database. So we now support SQL databases, as well. So two different ways you can do it, Access or SQL.
And then that controls all of these catalogs that we have for all the different devices. So you can see up here that it automatically went to the control relay catalog category, because that's what I'm using. That's what I just inserted, and it knows that based off of the symbol type. But you can see a whole list of all the different symbol types we have in here, including cables and multiconductor cables right there.
And in those, it predefines, based off of the part number, what the color-coding should be for all of those. And it'll know as you insert the first one, a child would be the next one, and the next one, and it goes in order. Yep. So here, let's just say I want to grab this top one here. So this, by the way, is basically like a Google search. Anything you type in here, it will search all columns that you're seeing to be able to find that particular part number.
If you can see the very first column that I put here, I actually moved this, so you can drag these columns around, so you can reorder them to find things. User1-- we have three user fields that come with the Catalog Database that are blank. They're open for you to put in whatever you want. User1 is most commonly your corporate number matching whatever your manufacturer numbers are.
A lot of times, people have those standards, and that's the kind of stuff they want to search on. So you just turn that User1 field as visible, which you can do by right-clicking any one of these lists. And you could turn on and off whatever you're seeing here as columns, and this More button allows me to see things like user columns.
So as soon as I turn it on, anything that is open and visible here, I am searching by. That's the beauty of that. The other thing that you could do right inside of here is edit it. So if you click this little pencil button, this automatically turns into an editing sheet. Looks like a big giant Excel spreadsheet. And you can add and edit any of the existing ones, or you can add your own down here.
You can see I've added a 12345 down here, and you can do the same thing, and add whatever information. You can even have it predefine things like what your 2D symbol is, like that control relay I just inserted, and even what your 3D symbol is, which preview, that's my EMX file reference for tomorrow.
So if I wanted that to reference this particular part number, to reference an Inventor part or subassembly that I'm going to bring into a bigger assembly in Inventor, I can do that right here in the Catalog Database. That's shared between Electrical and Inventor. Yeah?
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] description file [INAUDIBLE]?
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: No.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: I don't typically encourage you to have the catalog automatically fill attributes, other than rating. Rating is often used where the catalog number drives the rating field inside of your symbols. But other than that, I don't typically like it to hardcode into that because typically, depending from project to project, you might have different description texts and things like that in there.
Rating, yes. You'll see most motor symbols and fuses that come with the software already predefine that rating field to automatically fill that out based on the part number that you chose. But everything else, I encourage the user to do. So I'd do more of the description file that you saw me show for corporate standards in that, not do it out of the catalog. Good question. Good question. Yeah?
AUDIENCE: The category list?
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yeah?
AUDIENCE: Can you add new families?
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yep. So the CR and things like that, you can add more. You would actually do that-- in the Access database, you can define new family codes or modify the existing ones, and still make sure it references everything. Yep. And there's information on all of that in the help, too. But yes, you can absolutely do that. All of it's customizable.
OK. The other really cool thing, though, that's listed in here is the PIN list. So when you grab a part number-- and this, I guess, goes back to the other attribute. It's going to automatically fill out the attributes for PINs, as well, based off of the catalog number. So if I were to grab this very first one up here, maybe the second one, that has two contacts available with it, that is going to predefine my PIN list for my contacts.
And it's actually going to also know that if I go to try to add more than two children to this device, it's going to tell me I'm overloading that part number. That part number is not-- I've now hit the limit. I can either choose to ignore it, because Electrical, as all AutoCAD things, they allow you to do stuff if you really want to force it to, but it is going to flag you that warning.
So more than likely, you're going to want to go obviously in and change the part number, and then have it allow you to update that PIN list. So if I choose this and I click, OK, notice it automatically put the port number here, but it also automatically added PINs, and that's the key. This is going to happen automatically as I add cross-referencing information. So as I start adding children, this will fill in on its own.
But look at what happened because of the part number I chose. It knows that I have two contacts, and it also knows the PIN information for those contacts. All of that's predefined.
The other thing, too, that's good to mention-- in fact, I was just on call with a customer yesterday. They were looking to do subassembly items of plug-and-play with electrical, and they wanted just to have one device represent quite a few different part numbers, because they didn't care about all the internal wiring, really, but they knew that they needed to have it all ordered together.
And I said, multiple catalogs. So in this multiple catalog option, you can actually choose up to 99 extra part numbers to assign to the main part number. So you could have just a single device that you really care about the wiring coming into that device, but you can also have an order whatever else you want to add to your bill of materials. So that's the multicat. Very cool.
Once we are done, and you clearly would never spend this much time inside this dialog box, but I just wanted to share all of this with you, the last thing that I want to do is installation and location codes, and then we'll leave this. And you'll see how all of this information fills out in the drawing. But installation and location codes are just additional attributes within the particular block that allow you to do filters.
So you can run bill of materials, or any report, really, on specific installation and location codes. So that's the real benefit of it. But it's also just by design for you to know, where is this particular device being installed? Is it my main cabinet? Is it operator station whatever-- 1, 2, 3, 4, whatever it might be? Junction box two. Whatever it could be, that's your location code.
Installation can be dialed down to even more specific areas within those particular locations. Most of the time, I don't see people use both, but you can. They're there for you. But just know those are fields that automatically come with all symbols that you can use as filters for whatever you may need when it comes to reporting.
And again, this is another one of the customized files that I'm going to mention a little bit later here, and I'm giving you a preview to all of them. So we might be able to even jump over those a little bit. But when we go into the project here, I can say Include External List, and I can create a separate little text file-- I'll show it to you, like I said, in a little bit-- that predefines all my standard location codes or installation codes.
And again, that way, I don't type junction box, you type j box, somebody else types just JB, and they look like three different location codes, and they're really all this exact same one. So that's how you can predefine standards.
And we'll just grab Op Station 1 for this one just for fun. So there we go. I'm done. I'm going to click OK. Now, this mapping of the catalog number-- so that predefines that symbol 2D box that I showed you guys inside the catalog just now, where I said right next to that, you can put in Inventor parts or assembly files. This would predefine that every time I use this part number, I want this particular relay to always be available.
The reason for that-- and I'm not going to map it, because I'm always in demo mode, so I want to show it-- but the reason I might want to map it is so that as opposed to going to the icon menu, I can actually go straight to the Catalog Browser, and find my part number first, and then insert a block based off of that part number.
If I do that, notice that here I don't have a symbol map to it, so I have to go to the icon menu again to find it, where if I had a symbol mapped, it would just allow me to click right on it and it would just bring that block in. So I don't even have to go through the icon menu. It's automatically doing it based off of the part number. So just a different way to work, but another benefit to it.
All right. Now, everything came in. You can see the connection dots. You can see it automatically trimmed. You can see the location code of all of the information we just filled out right. That's the power of it. And this one was a little close to the bus line, so let's say I want to scoot it over. We have a Scoot command that is just that.
Think about this in AutoCAD. This simple little command, as I just move it over a teeny bit, in AutoCAD, I would have to move, trim, extend-- for the wire points-- I'd have to move all those different pieces. Depending on how I drew this-- if it wasn't a block, if I actually just had text on the side, I'd have to move that stuff too, right? There's a lot of things there. It's just such a simple command that I can just grab it and adjust it just ever so slightly. Kind of cool. Yeah?
AUDIENCE: So bringing in the symbols that's used in the catalog folder [INAUDIBLE] change the layers without having to [INAUDIBLE] layers?
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: You can, absolutely.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: That kind of dives into a deeper discussion. So just so you guys all know, the only time I've really talked to you about layers is when I talked about those wire layers, and that's by design. In AutoCAD Electrical, technically all of the layers you see in this list happen automatically. And there's a lot of power to that, because even though it's one block, I can adjust the location code, the tag, the PIN numbers all independently.
I can hide them all. I could freeze them. I can do all of that stuff. So I typically don't like people readjusting them just because you lose some of that, but absolutely, you can.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yep, absolutely you can. And you can do it in a couple ways. You could go back to vanilla AutoCAD with that per every drawing. Or if you actually look in your project properties, and you go to a drawing format here, there's this Layer Define and you can change them.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: And it'll do it to the whole project, yep. You can do the project, yep. Yep, yep, yep. Oh, yeah. You don't have to write the scripts, no. Well, here's another little plus if you do write scripts. So there's this little Utilities area that allow you to do all kinds of cool things. You guys are getting a few extra things I wasn't really planning on showing you, so here you go. No, it's a good thing.
So if you guys do as-builts-- so when everything's already gone, your drawings have shipped out, maybe you have to make adjustments to them, but you know that you don't want them to reset and redefine all the tech-- I keep doing that. I'm sorry, you guys. And you don't want them to redefine all the tags and things. Maybe a new controller relay has to go in on a line, but you don't want it to read number because it's already been labeled out in the shop.
You can set all of these to Fixed. So you can set wire numbers to Fixed, component tags to Fixed, item numbers to Fixed--
AUDIENCE: So that's globally for the project.
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: So that's globally for the project. And then you can un-fix them, if you copy this project to use it again and you want to do new stuff. But this is a really great tool. But for you, when you said you run scripts, notice this allows you to throw a script in there and have it affect all the drawings in the project. So it's just another little utility for that. So yeah, some cool stuff that you can do there.
All right. Now, last part of inserting symbols and wires that I want to show you just the parent-child relationship of, if I go back to not the Catalog Browser, to the icon menu, and I grab a child's contact this time, and I'm just going to put it on the same drawing. But I, of course, could put it on a different drawing. Very different dialog box.
Child components know that they are children. There's actually very specific naming formats that we have to all of our symbols. And in fact, on this little quick reference guide, I give you that information on what the symbols mean. By the way, this means, do not explode blocks ever. If any of you guys are exploders, I'm not going to ask you to raise your hands, but know that's a really big no-no. Uh-oh. I saw a guy with a raised hand.
So yeah, we don't explode, and know that also means do not burst, for any of you who are going to throw that out at me that know all the little extra things. Don't do that. When you do that, you're blowing up the intelligence, literally, of AutoCAD Electrical symbols. And then if you try to re-block it, like oh, I exploded it by accident, I'll re-block it.
If you don't block it with the correct naming convention, you lose a lot of the really good functionality that allow it to recognize things, like the fact that it's a horizontal or vertical symbol, what the type of symbol is-- that's the family code on it. If it's a parent or a child, it actually has toggle numbers for all of that. It even knows if it's normally open or normally closed, because we've got a toggle button that allow you to switch between that.
If you blow up that, it's gone. None of that stuff works. So don't explode. There's always ways to edit things. You do not need to explode. It was a handicap tool that we used for back in the old versions of AutoCAD when there were no other editing tools to do anything else, so when in doubt, you exploded to be able to get-- but you don't need to do that anymore, OK?
So anyway, this is a child component. The only thing I need to tell it is who the parent is. All other information comes in attached automatically, based off of that parent. If I change the parent, the child updates. All of it happens automatically. So if I go in here, and again, you can look at lists from both the drawing and the project. But if you have a parent or a sibling on the same drawing, all you have to do is grab it, and all that information automatically comes in. Done and done. Easy-peasy. Cool? Excellent.
So I am going to head back to said PowerPoint. Yes? Yeah?
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
And then we will update the [INAUDIBLE] child device got changed to, and then so I'll update block. [INAUDIBLE] updated child [INAUDIBLE].
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: So the Swap Update Block would update the parent, and if the parent's information needed to change anything on the child, it would, but if block itself needs to be swapped, you'd have to swap that separately. They'll talk to one another. It'll know still who the parent is, but the block itself would have to be swapped.
Now, along those same lines, if you change a part number on a parent device, and because we have peer relationships, not just with hydraulic, pneumatic and P&ID, but there's really a peer relationship between the footprint symbols and the schematic parent symbols. If that changes, it actually will tell you that it knows that there's a footprint symbol out there, and it knows that there's a different block that's associated with that particular part number, and it will swap that block automatically.
So part numbers will do that, but just you using Swap Update Block isn't going to force the child to swap.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] update [INAUDIBLE].
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Oh, yeah.
AUDIENCE: So I don't get any notifications that [INAUDIBLE].
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yes, exactly. Yep. It'll know that there are related devices, but it'll tell you that you have to go out there. Yep. So I gave you kind of a sneak peek of some of these already-- the customizing the electrical support files-- but again, this is how you can get this implemented. When you're going through the install and you're setting up all of your defined properties, this is another thing that you can do to get yourself on the right foot to have everybody use those standards.
And like I said, I've shown you some of these already. But before I go into all the different files that you can do, I just want to talk about the convention of how this finds these support files that we're about to talk about, OK? So there are three different paths that it will search through. The very first one when it's looking for any of these support files, I was telling you about.
So that wdd description file we just looked at, or those location and installation files that I was showing you, it will first look in the exact same folder as the project file with the exact same name as the project file. So for instance, maybe my project that you just saw me using was AU_2018_NFPA. If I wanted a wdd file for just that project, not globally for all of my projects, then I would call it AU_2018_NFPA.wdd. And that's the first one it's going to look for.
Now, if I know that I want to use that file for more than just this one project, I can also name it just default dot whatever that file extension is, and again, put that in the same folder as the project. Now that means that more than one project in that folder could be associated to it, which would be good. But that just allows it-- again, it's the secondary look that it's looking for there.
The last one is out in your support directory. So if you choose those to be on the network, or if they're locally on your C drive, it will go out and look there for it. Now some people might say, well, if I know I'm going to use it in more than one project, I'll always put it here out in the support directories. I have a little mixed feelings on that.
What I like is for projects to be able to independently work on their own, so that even five years from now, if you've changed standards, that that project can still follow the same tools that it used originally. So I actually like keeping them all in their own little bucket. These little extra files are really tiny. They don't take up a ton of space. And when you use the Copy Project functionality that I showed you earlier, it will bring all of these support files with it.
So if you use that project and then you want to be able to edit it and do something else with the next project, it will keep bringing those with it. And that way, every project lives on its own little island and will have its own support files. Where I see this the most is title blocks. Let's say five years from now, you've got a totally different title block than you used to use, but you want to bring a legacy project forward.
And you're actually not going to update or swap those title blocks. You just want to be able to get this back out. Maybe it's something you're updating for a customer from, like I said, five years ago, and you're making a change. You want it to still function. You want the title block updating to still happen properly. You want all that stuff to work.
So if that's the case, you've got that little support file in that folder with the project, and you don't have to worry about the fact that you've since updated it, and your attributes are all different now, and everything's labeled differently. Does that make sense? The ideas behind it? So either way works, but that's typically my advice is let each project live as its own grouping and keep things in the project file.
All right. So we've talked about these reference files already. We looked at all of these. This is adding the external list and the defaults number. So we've already looked at all those. This is the line label description. I'm going to show you this one in a second. This is the first step towards your title block update. So actually, there's a thing called Descriptions under the right-click under your project.
And as opposed to it saying line one, line two, line three, line four, and so on, you can have it actually be labeled exactly what your attributes would be labeled. This doesn't map it yet. This just allows your users to be able to actually see-- they don't have to have a cheat sheet next to them like, which attribute does line one map to? I don't remember. I got to look at my little cheat sheet.
You're already putting that there for them. So you're literally editing the dialog box, which is pretty cool. Super, super simple. Notepad file, which is just literally line1 equals and then whatever you want it to say. And you can see the example here goes from line1 to that, so that's the whole point.
And then your actual title block update-- so I'll show you this in a second, but this is another thing to keep in mind. How many of you have more than one title block that you use? Not that many. OK, yeah, there's more hands. So if you have more than one title block, I don't care if it's A size, B size, C size, D size, if the attributes are in a little box at the bottom, or along the side, it doesn't matter to me.
But the key when you first set up Electrical is if you make all of those title blocks have the same attributes-- I don't care if they're in the same locations, I don't care if they're the same size, but if Title 1 is called Title 1 in one block, and in another block, it's just called T1 or something like that in your attributes, clean that up.
Make them the same, because when you make one mapping file, you can map it to multiple blocks. That's what you're seeing here in this example where it says Demo Title Block, Demo Title Block 2, Demo Title Block 3. You just put commas in the name of the blocks, and that way, no matter what template you use with whatever title block, your mapping will always work, and you don't have to create multiple mapping files. Does that make sense?
This is a whole lot of information in 90 minutes. How're you guys all doing? It's a lot. OK. So if you map all of that together and you keep all of that consistent, you'll do this mapping one time-- easy peasy-- and then you're good to go, and your title blocks will always be able to globally update across all project drawings. OK?
So back to Electrical. How are we doing on time? Oh, good. We still have a half hour. We are good. So to show you what I mean, so if you look, I have a bunch of these little customizable files, all right here, that come in. And you can see they have those different extensions. So the default inst-- this is the installation file-- default loc, the location file.
And again, it's this simple. You just create a text file. Obviously have file extensions turned on so you can take the txt out, because if you type dot loc and then it still puts dot txt, Electrical's not going to see it. But if you put the dot loc and then you just start typing in what you want-- do you see Randy's? I totally stole this from a really, really old project of Randy's. Randy's name, right there. In the flesh, he's right there. All right.
So to give him kudos, if anybody ever saw the AOTC books from way back when, when Autodesk actually used to print our own-- what am I trying to say-- training manuals, Randy built the one for AutoCAD Electrical. And this actually came from one of the data sets from way back when. I love this data set. I use it over and over, been using it for-- let's not put how many years on it. I don't even know, 15?
So yeah, that's why you can see that there. But anyway, that's the point. So you can add this information to these text files with whatever info you want and have that be pulled in for standards. This line label 1 that I was just telling you about-- line1 equals Title 1-- again, like I said, first step towards your title block mapping.
Now this, just so that everybody knows, is key to being the things that you are going to change project-wide. There are obviously things like the drawing name, or the drawing description, or the sheet number-- those are not here, because this is global for across all drawings in the project. That kind of information sits on the drawing properties, and I'll show you that in a second. Does that makes sense? So we can pull from both to automate the title block updating.
All right. So you do that. And just so you guys know kind of how I operate, if I am sitting with a customer and I'm helping them set up their AutoCAD Electrical, and I look at their current title block, if we get to the feeling where I feel like the title block's set up well and there's attributes in it-- by the way, if any of you guys are still putting text in just a title block and it's not attributed, definitely need to update that. Put attributes in your title locks or none of this is going to work. You can't link the title block updates to just text inside of your blocks themselves.
So when I go through that, I will highlight with my customers, OK, which ones of these are actually project-wide? Which ones are going to update on every single sheet? And which ones are going to be specific per each drawing? And then we start to know how we're going to align attributes to either this section or to the drawing properties. Does that make sense? So those two areas, you got to figure out the title block.
And then once we're done with all of that, this file will get created. And this is for the title block mapping, but you don't have to do this manually. There's actually a whole utility for it, and I will show you that. Like I said, it only has to happen one time. It's on the Project tab of the ribbon, and you just go to the Title Block Setup.
And you can see all of those descriptions of those three different file formats that I was telling you about right here in this dialog box to choose it. The last option-- I don't typically do this one, but it actually embeds a hidden attribute in the title block that it sits on that, as opposed to using an external file, and keeps the mapping in that. So it's another option.
And just so that you guys can see this, I am going to put this in Paper Space. And yes, to answer any of your questions, you should be using Paper Space with Electrical. I'll get a lot of people that're like, does it really matter? Yes. When you start going to plotting, it will make your life a whole lot easier if your templates are actually setup with Paper Space and Model Space defined.
There are mixed feelings on that. You will see other people be like, eh, it doesn't really matter. You can throw your title block in Model Space, but really, you should. It's a best practice for AutoCAD, and it really is a best practice for AutoCAD Electrical, too. You might not care so much about the scaling for your schematics, but it is important for scaling when it comes to your panel drawings and actually having those be true to form.
Anyway, so now that I'm here, title block set up, if I were to click it--
AUDIENCE: Can you set up a report [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Oh, yeah. I already have all my templates set up like that. Absolutely. That's a great question. Yeah, so her question was, can you set it up so your viewport automatically comes in and it is already predefined? I have all my templates set up like that. So I'll show you that when we actually get to the templating section, but absolutely, I think that's a great idea.
So if you look in here, what happened is if I were to choose this block, which I just did-- I selected it-- what it does is in this attribute list, it shows me all the attributes available to this particular title block, and then I just start mapping them. So if my project line labels were already done, as opposed to saying Line 1, Line 2, Line 3, like you see over here-- if I predefine them, I'll know then, OK, I want to match Title 1 attribute to Title 1 project line value. Super easy. You're just playing the match game.
So cruise through this and do that. And then if you go over to drawing values, these are all the things that set in your drawing properties. And this will allow you to define things like drawing number or sheet number.
For instance, I have a lot of people that actually like this previous sheet and next sheet. So if you don't use 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 as your drawing numbers, if your numbers jump all around and you want to be able to know what the previous sheet and the next sheet are, and you put that in your title block, you can define that. That's an attribute available in here.
So as long as the attribute sits in your title block, you can assign it to the information in Electrical to have it automate it. Cool? Yes? What that also means for you is that this 4 of 10 that you're seeing right here is not one attribute. The 4 is an attribute. The 10 is an attribute. The "of" is just a text constant. Does that make sense?
So then you assign sheetnumber to the one where the 4 is and you assign the sheetmaximum to the one where the 10 is, and it will auto-calculate how many drawings you have, and it will always update that number. Cool? All right.
So once that's all defined, anytime you go to title block set up-- oop, sorry-- any time you go to the title block update, you can choose what you want it to update, and then you can choose from both the project lines and the individual drawings, like here. And you can say, OK, do it to either the active drawing or project-wide, which you're probably always going to do it project-wide, and it'll cruise through and it'll update all your title blocks in a blink of an eye.
And the last thing, just to show you where the drawing properties come in, if you right-click on any drawing and you go to Drawing Properties, this front tab is what the title block can pull in. So any information on this sheet can be yanked into the title block. So again, if the fields aren't labeled exactly what you would want them to be, just make sure that your users know what to fill out and how it links to that, and they can use any field in here to have it auto-populate that information in the title blocks. Cool?
Am I starting to lose you guys? 90 minutes is a long time. I know.
AUDIENCE: Is there still no support for the multiline attributes?
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: There's still no support for the multiline attributes. Sorry. Yep. Yeah, so the point to that is because all of this is driven by mapping of the text files-- just so you know, there are multiline attributes that you can actually create now out of vanilla AutoCAD. But this auto-mapping will only fill out that first line for you, it's not going to go through and wrap with all that multiline.
AUDIENCE: So if you need multiline issue, you're better off [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: You are, if you're mapping it to this. Obviously that's beneficial when you're filling it out yourself, but if you're using these mapping, yeah, I would just do this. Yeah. Yeah?
AUDIENCE: This is probably beyond the scope of this, but how is it implemented in AutoCAD Electrical [INAUDIBLE] drawings. Is it possible? Is there a [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: So how do you convert, basically? OK. So yes, you're stealing a bit of my thunder from my Thursday class, but that's OK. So here's my joke about that. Whenever I am teaching new users, I typically encourage you to not convert. I typically encourage you to try to redraw it, for a couple reasons. You're, A, going to learn a lot more about electrical by doing that.
You're also going to make sure that you don't have a bunch of messy things that are already coming from an old, legacy AutoCAD drawing that you're now pulling forward to an AutoCAD Electrical drawing, because that's going to muddy the waters for your reporting tools. The other thing that you run into is if you, A, start wanting to copy those particular projects and you did have some funky things going on in that project, that's going to only get funkier as you copy it over and over again.
My joke is if you've seen the movie Multiplicity--
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yep. When you get to like the third copy, where the copies make copies of themselves, that guy's a little funny, right? And that's kind of how your drawings are going to come out. However, that doesn't mean that there aren't tools. So there's actually a Conversion tab of the ribbon that has a bunch of different conversion tools on it that you can use.
For legacy drawings, I encourage that. There's some great tools to help you do some quick things to make it intelligent so you can run a report on it. Just don't do that for your template project, like the one I was telling you about from the beginning that you're going to use to copy over and over again. Don't do it to that one. Draw it from scratch and make it a clean, intelligent drawing set that's fully, fully intelligent.
But there's absolutely tools to help you with those, pull those forward. Absolutely, yep. So it's a two-part answer there. You can do it, but I don't always encourage it for the down-the-road things.
Heading back. OK, so we have 20 minutes, and we are good. So just the last thing here is about those template files. So an AutoCAD template is an AutoCAD Electrical template. There's not a different filename for it. It's a dwt. How many of you use dwts? Excellent. All right. So really, all the stuff you would normally put in your standard AutoCAD templates can be in an Electrical template. You can see the listing here.
Now, here's one thing that maybe a little old-school that you guys aren't used to using, but is really, really imperative when you're dealing with ladder drawings, is the snapping grid mode. So if you're actually using snap-- so not object snap, because we typically don't want to always snap to the end point or the midpoint of a wire. We're putting our symbols at nice, even spacing.
So instead, I have everybody actually setup snap and grid lines so that you can actually place components in nice, even settings. There are some really cool tools like Align, and I'll show you an editing tool that will make everything line up perfectly so you don't have to be overly cautious about all those snap modes, but again, it helps just make cleaner drawings.
So I always put that, again, into my templates. Your dimension styles, your text styles, all of that stuff that you might use maybe in notes that you're putting on your title block, or if you are doing dimensioning on your panels and things like that-- any setting like that from vanilla AutoCAD still applies. All of that stuff still works.
And again, the title black in Paper Space that you see in parentheses. So that doesn't change your templates. If you have those already, there's nothing you have to add. The things that are key for Electrical that you're going to want to predefine, in my template, I always define my drawing properties, as well. So I didn't talk too much about this, but that Project Properties dialog box-- that is the main one to affect all drawings that you bring into that project.
But if you change something in the drawing properties-- not everything's available in them, but there are specific properties that mimic the same ones in the project properties that you could say, maybe, 2 out of your 10 drawings have a different setup to them. The drawing properties actually override the project properties. For instance, maybe one drawing has three ladders and you make them skinnier than your standard ladder sizes because of how you're trying to fit stuff on them. You can do that, and that's the drawing properties.
So in my template, I predefine drawing properties, as well, just so that that's being reinforced there. Your wire layers-- get those setup in your template so that you don't have to do that every time or import it every time. If you have, like I said, the 40 where you're doing all the different gauges for all the different colors, get that done one time. Set it all up. You don't have to think about it again. It's already in there then.
If you've ever noticed-- well, I'll go into electrical and show you this-- if you've ever clicked on a vanilla AutoCAD drawing and you've tried to click on something in the ribbon that's Electrical, it'll say, Do you want to insert the wd_m block? Because there's this little block that sits at 000 that actually holds all the information for your drawing properties within that block as a hidden reference.
And that needs to be in there for any Electrical command to function properly. So just get it into your template so that people don't get hit with that question every time they try to use that particular template. And then optional other items-- you can predefine ladders already in there, and then just go through a ladder reset of the ladder numbers. And we can do that. There's a Revise Ladder command, where you can just change the ladder numbers for every new page that you're on.
Or the Project-wide Update and Retag can do that, too. But you can predefine that so that your ladders are in the same spot for everybody. It works the same way. Predefined circuits-- you can do that, too. Non-plotting objects-- so I do this every time. In fact, I'm going to jump back into Electrical here. Oh, and you're seeing a preview of a quiz. I gave it away.
So if you notice, I have this green box here. A lot of people freak out with me when they say that their title block should be in Paper Space. And they're like, but I use that to keep track of where my ladder should go. You can still do that. I have this as a non-plotting box called viewport. I just made a viewport layer and made it a non-plotting-- so the visibility, if you guys know what that is inside of layers, you can set that non-plotting visibility.
And it's also locked, so that I don't move it around by accident if I go to use it any sort of move command. And that just gives me that spacing so I have it in there. And it automatically references your question of the viewport. I already have that predefined in my Layout tab so that that viewport comes in perfectly. It's at a 1:2 scale. Yep, you can kind of see it in the background on the side there.
It obviously doesn't plot, and neither does the grid. I know everybody thinks the grid looks crazy. I love the grid in Model Space. I tend to turn it off when I switch over to Paper Space. But that'll do that for you. So I tend to set those up so that everybody has that comfortable area to actually draw inside of, and then it still references all the spacing that you have back over to your Paper Space.
Honestly, other than with plotting, you'll never have to switch to Paper Space. It's really all about the plotting side of things, and it will just make your publish or your plot files a whole lot cleaner and easier if you have those pre-setup.
AUDIENCE: What about customers that strictly use models [INAUDIBLE]
And then they come out with different size title fonts.
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Exactly.
AUDIENCE: So they don't understand the concept, I guess.
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yep.
AUDIENCE: How do I do that in publish [INAUDIBLE] two separate publishes [INAUDIBLE].
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: No. Actually, that's a really great question. So I had the same problem. Back when I was in industry, I worked with a bunch of people that just did not understand it. They came from-- if any of you guys know the really old AutoCAD days-- I'm saying R14 and earlier-- and yes, I started on R10. Yes, or that.
And to actually do viewport scaling, you had to like do the math of, OK, 1 over 96 times what the scale is, I'm going to type that in, and I'm going to figure-- that's why people got scared of Paper Space and that's what happened where-- a ton to people putting title blocks in Model. That doesn't happen anymore. It's really easy to set scaling and do all of that, but that tends to be why people shied away from it. And I dealt with that, too. And it made plotting really ugly if you--
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] still got people in dimension, and still in dimension because they don't know how to set [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Ugh, yes. Exactly. Yes. It's a different class altogether, but really important, guys. So but yeah, if you go to the Publish-- I don't know if it's my mouse or if it's the fact that I'm on this podium. There we go. If you go to Publish, just to show you this really fast, and I want it to do layout 1.
Actually, let's go back to your Model, because that's what you were saying. Yep, so let's get to Model.
AUDIENCE: So if I did that, can I pick certain ones and just import [INAUDIBLE]?
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yeah, so if you notice, it just gave me that problem. So what I typically do is I will save into my Model Space. I will actually go to my Page Setup Manager. I will create one called publish or whatever, and I will set it to Extents. Now, the one thing you have to hope for is that I at least have it all as landscape or portrait, and it's not one or the other.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] orientation should be 0 [INAUDIBLE] 0 [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: So you can get around that, though. So let's say I were to modify just this existing one. What you can do is just say you want it to go to the extents, no matter what. The key, though, so I would do extents, center the plot, no scale. Actually, yeah, just put to paper. And then again, you've got to hope that they are at least using all portrait or all landscape.
If they're not, there's really no way around it. And that's, again, why you should have Paper Space so that it can-- because guys, just so you know this, Paper Space-- you can do a publish, and something could be in portrait or landscape, and it knows already because you've pre-defined those settings in it. But if you don't have that set, the only go-around for it is you save one plot setup in Model Space for, say, portrait and one for landscape, and you just assign it in the publish to override, yeah, everything else.
Yeah, but that's really the only way to do it. Yep, and that's why it's so important to use Paper Space. Yep. So that's templates, and that's really what I do. That's what I define everything as. So it's really not hard. You get that first template set up, you get your wire layers in there, and you're good to go. You're able to start working and make it intelligent.
OK. We have 11 minutes. Do you guys have questions? Do you want to see anything else? Yeah?
AUDIENCE: So with all the predefined settings, how does [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: The CAD standards check that is in vanilla AutoCAD? You can use it in Electrical. That's really checking for more of those basic things that we would already predefine out of vanilla AutoCAD in our templates, anyway. So there's not a problem with that. It probably doesn't matter as much as it probably did in vanilla AutoCAD, but you could still run it. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah?
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
So I would have to setup [INAUDIBLE]. Is there a tutorial or something you could suggest that I start off with, being that [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: OK, so she's asking if there's a tutorial to clean up title blocks. Not a tutorial that I know of, or not like a command that you could run that would clean it.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] but just like something that steps me through this and says, hey, [INAUDIBLE].
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: So if you actually go to my handout for this class, I have a whole section on title blocks and standards to go through through it. See if that helps you. If not, email me and maybe I can help you come up with something that you can use for that. But yeah, try that first in my handout because there's a whole section on title blocks and how to map all that.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yes, absolutely. Oh, yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Yep?
AUDIENCE: So I work for a utility, and there are multiple plants and whatnot. Would a project be considered maybe one area of a plant, or one whole plant, or [INAUDIBLE]?
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: So again, that's where I say that's really up to you. It could be the whole thing. If a drawing needs to talk to another drawing--
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yes. Now, if that becomes burdensome, and they don't really talk other than maybe a single connection that links things together, maybe you predefine that and you just say with your source and destination arrows, to blah, blah, blah other project, and you reference that. And you don't finish that link, and you do create a separate project.
But I don't see any reason-- if they talk to one another, make them all the same project and then use those different sections as the folder structure inside of your Project Manager. Just so you guys know, I get asked this a lot. There's not a way to have projects and subassembly projects, where a project links to another project that links to another projects.
The best you're going to get with that are these folders. Nate Holt, who actually originally created AutoCAD Electrical, if you guys know that name, actually did a blog post-- oh, gosh, I don't even know how many years ago now, where he was kind of playing with the subassembly project idea. But it's kind of wonky, and the best thing I would do is this folder structure. I wouldn't try to overcomplicate.
So if you think it's going to talk to one another, I'd say make all the drawings one project. Yes?
AUDIENCE: How do I will tell it what's existing and what's new? Because I'm thinking of building materials and reports. [INAUDIBLE] that's going to say, yeah, [INAUDIBLE], but I'm only putting in two new [INAUDIBLE].
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Mm. So you're thinking like Brownfield, Greenfield, new things like that? So my advice at that point-- there's different ways to explore that. And I might actually pick on Randy and see if anything in the Consortium has talked about that.
AUDIENCE: Layers.
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Well, my advice would actually be location codes. So I would actually use location or installation. If location is very specific for the real location name, use installation to say new or old, whatever. Maybe I'd focus on the new. And that way, when you run a report-- because anytime you run a report, you can say-- and I'll just do a bill of material-- but you can say-- hang on. Sorry. I went past the page I wanted to.
You can say, as opposed to all installation and location codes, you can specifically choose a named one. And you could find just new, and then run a report on just the new. So my advice would probably be using that field. Randy, I don't know if there's any other things that they're doing. Yeah. Go ahead.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] This is the vice chair of the consortium.
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Oh, hi. Well, good grace. Yeah.
AUDIENCE: Thank you. A question, we're actually looking into a lot of discussions of how we manage project 1 versus project 2, and also [INAUDIBLE] deal with the [INAUDIBLE]
So any questions specific to that [INAUDIBLE]
So we're kind of taking a lot of the challenges on. I think that's more specific to utility [INAUDIBLE] than gas stations, but--
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yeah. So just so you guys know what we're talking about, is there's actually a specific-- I don't know. How many people here are from utilities? Do you all know about the Consortium or Consort-e-um, depending on who you're talking to and who they say? OK. So that was derived, it was created for multiple utilities to be able to build this and form this basically user group to be able to define standards, and start working together on defining the new version of drawings and what you guys are doing around Inventor Vault and Electrical. So that's why I said, there might be a standard already. Thank you so much.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: No, you're good. You're great. Randy?
AUDIENCE: I'll mention three tools that you could possibly use to do that, and it all depends on what you want to do. Number one is the [INAUDIBLE] there's an Add/Remove Features [INAUDIBLE].
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Oh, yeah. Yeah. We should talk-- there's a separate add-on that you can purchase that is specific around utilities. Yeah. It's called the Substation Design Suite.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] you could create a [INAUDIBLE]
And a tool that might also work is the Mark Verified tool.
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Oh, yeah. Hang on. Trivia challenge paused. Yeah, this is a good one to talk about. Thanks, Randy. So this is actually one of my favorites, not just for something like that, but producing a report, I don't think the Mark Verify would work because it's not going to give you quite like a bill of material, or a wire from [INAUDIBLE] like you're talking about. But it's a good thing to mention.
So there's something called this Mark Verify. For those who are worried about people who may explode things, or do some crazy things to your drawings, you can actually run this utility. It's called a mark, where if you run it on your whole project, it will actually track any changes to the project done in vanilla AutoCAD, AutoCAD LT, or Electrical.
And when you run the Verify, it will produce a report list that will show you all changes that have been made to it-- edits, deletes, moves, copies, all that kind of stuff. So it's a really neat utility to kind of help you check for things.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] to your name [INAUDIBLE].
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: I can't remember if there's a user field on it. I don't think there is a user field on it. I know. I got that asked that before, can there be like a hand slap of, you did all these changes to this. But it will track all those changes.
OK, we have five minutes left. I have a couple freebies to give out. They look like not very much, but they're actually really handy. How many of you have little stickies over your webcams on all your computers? Yeah. So this is a little fun Autodesk one that'll stick to your computer, and you can slide it open and closed so you can get rid of your sticky. So who wants one? Answer a trivia question.
All right. What is one of those top five reasons that productivity increases when you go to Electrical? Sure.
AUDIENCE: Automatically [INAUDIBLE] change.
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yes. Good job. There you go. You are welcome. Apparently, my microphone's-- so these are all of them, or at least a few of them. There's a whole lot more, but those symbol libraries, the automatic tagging, the cross-referencing, the automatic reports, and that title block utility.
All right. Why is a project file so important to use for Electrical? Yeah?
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Absolutely. Yep. The drawing's connected so you can do all those updates. Absolutely. There you go. Yep. OK. I'm trying to not bounce as the microphone. Yeah, so lots of different things, like the line descriptions to be able to set those standards, the project defaults, assigning the drawing list so that everything can cross-reference, folder structures, all those different catalog settings, all that good stuff.
What is one of the customizable support files we talked about?
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
AUDIENCE: WDT?
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yeah. Well, that's not a support file. That's a project file.
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Sorry, I'm going to give her a chance, just because she started--
AUDIENCE: A manufacturer's specifics to the project.
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: You actually got-- I didn't talk about that. You can make project-specific catalog. I'm going to give it to you. But what's another one? What're some of the other ones?
AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Yes, the WDT, like the title block updates. In fact, I think I only have one more question, so I will give you-- who said WDT? All right. So yeah, great. Great job, everybody. But yeah, I was looking for things like the component description file, the WDT file, project line labels, location codes, all that good stuff.
What's a key item you should have inside your templates?
AUDIENCE: Attributed title block.
TIFFANY BACHMEIER: Attributed title block, yes. Good job. That is very key-- very, very key or it does not work. Can you pass this down to her? Thank you so much. Good job, everybody. Thank you for humoring me with the quiz questions. You guys all listened amazingly. I appreciate that. We obviously have all those different things in the templates that we just talked about.
Just so you guys all know, I teach-- it's not really a teach. I conduct an office hours every third Thursday of every month. That offers open Q&A for AutoCAD Electrical. It's 11:00 AM Eastern time. I'm actually doing it this week from AU, so it'll be at 8:00 AM. I'm doing it live. I don't know if we've assigned a location yet. I think it's going to be on the top floor in one of the hubs.
But if you come to any of my other classes, I should have a better idea of the location. But I'm going to be sitting out there. You're welcome to come and ask me live questions there, or join it live. But if you're interested at all, please email me. All of my information is all over all the documents that you see for this class. So please feel free to email me. I'll send you the links to them.
But like I said, the third Thursday of every month, and I'm happy to answer any questions. It's open for all customers, all people using AutoCAD Electrical, and literally like I said, open QA. From beginner to advanced, any questions that you have. And I actually oftentimes have Vault experts with me, too, so we answer questions on that stuff, too.
All right. Anything else? We are at time perfectly right now. Any other questions? No? All right. Thank you guys so much for coming. Please fill out your session feedback.
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I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Have a great AU, you guys.
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